Mhax Arthie wrote:No More Heroes wrote:Gogela wrote:Walking in stations is critical to the future of EvE.
Nope. A logical approach to development would be to fix existing systems first before adding new ones. Cruiser buffs are good, not too happy with the BC stuff, Tiericide is meh, 0.0 needs a cohesive vision/direction.
Dude, in gaming industry these are patch notes not expansions. No offence, but when somebody spend too much time in the restroom it get used with the smell, but for someone who may enter the room it will be difficult to stay in for long. I don't wanna compare EVE with a restroom, but more like the veteran players attitude whom love to live in their cave and are against anything innovative and new that could shake their primitive life. Every time when a new idea nor concept is thrown into the ring, the vets are QQ all over like some lousy crybabies.
EVE is an absolute brilliant game and it's a shame that only few of us playing it on this entire planet. Only with constant balancing this game heads nowhere, there must be something big, something that changes EVE as we know it today. One thing we all agree is that changes should never be anything toward the themepark concept and EVE it is and should be forever a sandbox. But even in desert sometimes rain and the sand gets vet.
They don't get it though.
CCP said what they said becaue they understand that EVE will never truelly grow the way they want with just the FiS stuff.
Inferno did not add more people to TQ, Retribution did not add more people to TQ. Doing more of the same and tweeking what's already there doesn't add more people to TQ. I might get some old players back becuase they want to see if CCP "fixed" whatever their issue was.
CCP even said in the minutes that they can't even say if NEW players are coming to EVE or if it's just people picking up more accounts. I got a feeling that CCP think it's more of the later and less of the former.
Now they're pretty much asking the CSM, how can we do this. The CSM says, modular PoS's? CCP says no, that's to much work, what else can we do.
In the end, the answer is going to be NOTHING.
If they aren't willing to take on the difficult stuff, they'll never grow EVE.
EVE has sat around 350k subs for several years now. They added 100k recently with the reopening of the chinese server.
The mark of a good expansion is not current player praise, it's because new people come to the game. Inferno and retribution did not bring more people to EVE. Unifex even admitted that they thought that "fixing" things they thought were the problem, turned out to not be what was needed.
It makes sense that people ALREADY playing EVE are fine with things like WiS getting scrapped. We already play, we already like the spaceships.
If all it takes is more spaceships, then the playerbase wouldn't be holding at 350k. We'd see 450k on TQ without the chinese server; that never happend.
And it's the same thing for every other MMO.
If they don't do new things, they don't grow. They stagnate or they die. EVE has been stagnating, picking u a couple thosuand here and there, but even CCP seems to think that could have more to do with alt accounts and not really drawing in new players.
WiS type content is vital to the future of EVE, because without truelly new content EVE will never see significant growth.
The PoS revamp could have been the other driver for new players. I could have swore they said they wanted to redo them so that they weren't only useable by some people but to the wider playerbase. Not they don't want to do it becaue it's to hard and not everyone can use them? That's not what they said a year ago though.
Sounds a lot to me like they don't have the resources to do the larger things because of other stuff they're doing, and when pressed on that issue they say, "that's not it, it's just to hard". I'm not buying.
They're hunting for little things they can do that they think will grow EVE because they simply do not have the numbers working on EVE to dedicate to the more complex and larger projects.
And the little things are never going to grow EVE.
It han't worked in any other MMO, why does CCP think they'll be the exception to the rule?